Noble ATA Members. Can you please point me in the right direction to procure a cistern with an integrated wash basin to replace an existing ceramic cistern or a method for converting the same? I look forward to your learned comments. 
Cisterns with integrated wash basin
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Morbo
Memberare you taking the P$$$
or do you just want to talk kindly ?
I think they are not cheap, maybe not worth doing it. And a bit awkward.
For the same money you could get a rainwater tank.
http://www.bunnings.com.au/caroma-wels-5-star-flush-profile-5-toilet-cistern-with-integrated-hand-basin_p4870313Posted Tuesday 27 Oct 2015 @ 4:06:14 am from IP # -
johnmath
MemberThe Japanese giant Toto company makes this type of cistern and it is popular in Asian countries as a water saving device. True, it is not the most convenient way to wash your hands as you have to lean over the bowl, but as the water flowing into the bowl is 'virgin' so to speak, I fail to see how there is a hygiene issue. I have seen ones in old houses in Australia from time to time.
This one is the same as the one in my 'out-laws' toilet in Kyoto:
Posted Tuesday 27 Oct 2015 @ 8:45:15 am from IP # -
I saw one in my local Bunnings last week
Posted Tuesday 27 Oct 2015 @ 9:04:14 am from IP # -
cava
MemberLance said:
These things are not overly hygienic, especially if anyone in the household has the habit of flushing with the lid up. Best to keep washup areas and toilets well separated...From memory, studies have shown airborn faecal particles up to 1.5 mtrs from most toilet bowls. If I find the article I will post it.
Whilst it is a personal preference, there is no way my wife would accept a wash basin so close to the toilet bowl.
Posted Tuesday 27 Oct 2015 @ 9:13:32 am from IP # -
Johnnojack
MemberLance said:
These things are not overly hygienic, especially if anyone in the household has the habit of flushing with the lid up. Best to keep washup areas and toilets well separated...Since you don't need to touch the tap to turn it off or turn it on (there is no tap) you can hardly pick up a bug that way. You will however need to leave the toilet with wet hands unless you leave a towel in the toilet, AHHhh! Of course in the millions of Ensuites in Oz toilets and handbasins co exist. Hmmm
Posted Tuesday 27 Oct 2015 @ 11:38:55 am from IP # -
GJOESQ
MemberThanx everyone, especially bashworth for your link. I'm not after the whole 'suite', only the cistern.
BTW, Morbo, our new house does have rainwater tanks. It's just that we want to wash our hands in the separate WC room. I very silly design flaw I reckon. Of course, we could always put in a small sink. It just seems that an integrated wash basic makes so much more sense and should be cheaper as well.
Posted Tuesday 27 Oct 2015 @ 12:54:44 pm from IP # -
Morbo
Memberwould be cheaper and less space required than extra basin plus plumbing. You would have to close the lid before washing your hands plus the 1.5m of germs floating about may come from the days when you had the Niagara falls to your basin with 3m drop
Posted Tuesday 27 Oct 2015 @ 9:56:41 pm from IP # -
Annette
MemberBe careful using a cistern not matched to the toilet, as it can affect the efficiency of the flush. For example a basin/cistern for a five star system may not have enough 'oomph' if paired with a toilet designed for a bigger cistern.
There was a guy adapting cisterns - but not as elegant as the Caroma version.
Posted Wednesday 28 Oct 2015 @ 5:29:17 am from IP # -
Annette
MemberYes, I know! I spent several years living in Japan and had one in my apartment.
What I meant, was that the size of the cistern needs to be related to the style (size and shape) of the toilet pan otherwise it might not flush correctly or efficiently.
Posted Wednesday 28 Oct 2015 @ 9:36:54 am from IP # -
Morbo
Memberit comes as one system, so that should work. If you get the Japanese thing, it should have been worked out to perfection. The Australian thing would have sold 10 units so far, you could do a better one in your backyard. (judging from other things I seen so far)
Posted Wednesday 28 Oct 2015 @ 11:11:19 pm from IP # -
Frewvk
MemberThe unit linked above is what i wanted... or thought i did until i realized that the duration of water running in the basin is dictated by the fill time for the cistern. It would waste water in our circumstance as we would also use the facility at times solely for hand washing (not a 3L requirement) i was also concerned about soap residue having an imoact on the efficiency of the cistern seal over time. I hope someone with experience in a conversion may be able to offer suggestions to deliver what you are after.
Posted Saturday 20 Aug 2016 @ 12:16:31 pm from IP #
