Electric vehicle push for discount parking.
http://brisbanetimes.drive.com.au/car-manufacturers-offpeak-power-demand-20111013-1lmzn.html
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World solar car race now underway from Darwin to Adelaide.
http://www.worldsolarchallenge.org/
Youtube info here
Posted Sunday 16 Oct 2011 @ 10:45:54 pm from IP # -
Buzzman
MemberGreenozi
The type of electric bike your were talking about importing would be aq waste of time, as it would not be able to be registered.
If it looks like a bicycle, but with a motor attached, it's a bicycle and only can have a 200W max motor, max flat ground speed of 45km/h under motor alone.
If it looks like a motor bike, it has to comply with motor bike ADRs, whihc means highway speed capability and all the safety, headlight, blinkers etc etc etc of the ADRs.
Better off getting something that can do more than 70km/h so at least it would perform like a motorcycle!
Posted Monday 17 Oct 2011 @ 12:55:18 pm from IP # -
Dick Smith is now selling electric bikes for $899. Cat#: DSAU_SE6002
Looks like it has a 24V lead acid battery not lithium.
Further reading indicates it is very similar to the Y electric F110 for the same price.
Looks like ebikes are starting to become more mainstream.
Posted Wednesday 19 Oct 2011 @ 11:32:57 pm from IP # -
dbindoff
MemberThe most efficient electric car is the T.27? Winner of the RAC Future Car Challenge , audited energy use over the Brighton to London distance of 92km is ~6.59Kwh with 2 occupants. Approx 14km/Kwh. Hopefully it will go into production - I think I want one.
Posted Tuesday 8 Nov 2011 @ 12:34:15 am from IP # -
fireflies
Memberdbindoff
"I think I want one."
http://3d-car-shows.com/2011/350-mpg-rac-future-car/Really?? I've had a look and I see a movie in it; "Mr Bean Goes Electric"
Posted Tuesday 8 Nov 2011 @ 3:15:48 am from IP # -
Jeffbloggs
MemberHmmm
The T.27 is not a very good looking vehicle, and maybe only the most efficient prototype in the UK? I prefer the VW XL1:
http://www.volkswagenag.com/content/vwcorp/info_center/en/themes/2011/01/Volkswagen_XL1_Concept.html
Spec:
ONLY 24gCO2/km (instead of the 37gCO2/km from the T27, at non-highway speeds)
and that with ONBOARD energy generation via the hybrid drive train, and not using the scale efficiencies achieved by large steam turbines etc. Add Bio-diesel as fuel for RE version. Simple.And much better looking to boot...
Posted Tuesday 8 Nov 2011 @ 5:00:10 am from IP # -
dbindoff
MemberJeff, beauty is in the eye of the beholder - I grant the XL1 looks nice in a 'blingy' kind of way
The 37g CO2 quoted for the T.27 is , as I understand it, a real-world, well to wheels proprietary metric developed for the event - I don't have much info. I don't think the XL1 24gCO2/km equates to it at all - and they are quoting .9l/100km, the T.27 is quoting an 'equivalent' of .75l/100km.
In any case Volkswagen did enter another vehicle, which did not win any category by my reading of it. The Proton entry won the Hybrid range extended section.
So, I think until proven otherwise on an independently audited, real world track, the T.27 is the most efficient electric car.
PS Did you notice the T.27 had outstanding crash test and chasis strength results - I would have thought that would make any engineer's heart sing!
Posted Tuesday 8 Nov 2011 @ 5:46:23 am from IP # -
Jeffbloggs
Memberdbindoff
What is the well to wheel for local Biodeisel? The XL1 does not have any Wh/km figures for it's pure EV mode that I could find. Neither have I found a Wh/km figure for the T.27. That makes the EV consumption comparison hard and likewise the validity of the "most effcient EV in the World" statement vague.The other thing is there is no mention of what fossil fuels were used to generate the T.27 electricity? (ie specific emissions of fuel type used for the calculation) Plus at what speeds are these ranges accomplished? As you would know, if you halve the speed you quarter the wind resistance. Only real world driving speed and conditions, aka a mix of highway/city should really be used. The T.27 is far from slippery, and likewise it's highway performance will likely be poor.
On Safety:
I have long believed that composites are the answer to many construction problems. Vehicle safety is one of them. It also generally assists the energy consumption of a vehicle by reducing the vehicle weight. Use hemp and starch based resin to make it really green. BTW the XL1 is composite also.
Posted Tuesday 8 Nov 2011 @ 6:07:09 am from IP # -
Smallest electric car unveiled. Those pesky scientists keep delivering.
Posted Wednesday 9 Nov 2011 @ 6:59:05 pm from IP # -
Jeffbloggs
MemberRockabye
Now that's what I call a small car! You won't get any argument from me on it being the smallest, but it is a stretch to call it a car...where can I sit??
I can't wait for self assembling molecular machines...so long they don't turn into those replicator thingys like in Star Gate. Ouch!Posted Thursday 10 Nov 2011 @ 5:44:58 am from IP # -
Dakar rally through to Chile has an electric 4WD competing. I think this is it.
The latest Prius looks good also. Only 2.82l/100km.
Posted Wednesday 4 Jan 2012 @ 8:07:26 am from IP # -
Bushwalker
MemberIts 1.5l petrol engine develops 74hp and 111Nm, it is coupled to an electric motor of 61hp and 169Nm, offering a combined output of 100hp and a 0 to 100kph in 10.7 seconds.
The advantage of an EV is that it does away with the ICE and all the associated servicing (oil, plugs etc). A Prius has an ICE and an electric drivetrain/batteries. It's a useful platform upon which to develop useful EV technologies but otherwise the worst of both worlds IMHO. Better off with a euro diesel today, and an EV in a year or so.
Posted Wednesday 4 Jan 2012 @ 11:43:06 am from IP # -
I agree in principle, that is why I own one. But reality is that range issues are still a problem so the hybrid is good as it can be made a plug in EV as well with the long distance option built in. I think an ICE half or even 1/3 the size of the Prius would be adequate.
Posted Wednesday 4 Jan 2012 @ 9:13:00 pm from IP # -
EVME test driven by Charlie Boorman has a 200km range with top speed of 130kmh.
Posted Friday 13 Jan 2012 @ 9:46:01 am from IP # -
New foldup electric car from Spain.
The "Hiriko", the Basque word for "urban", is an electric two-seater. Its motor is located in the wheels and it folds up like a child's collapsible push chair for easy parking."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-25/fold-up-car-unveiled-in-europe/3791794
Posted Wednesday 25 Jan 2012 @ 10:47:14 pm from IP # -
Chevy Volt gets political interference.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/26/gm-ceo-chevy-volt-washington-criticism
Posted Thursday 26 Jan 2012 @ 9:14:01 pm from IP # -
Greg
MemberInteresting hopeful synopsis of new electric vehicles. http://newatlas.com/electric-car-future/46089/
Posted Saturday 19 Nov 2016 @ 9:44:39 pm from IP # -
Road registerable postie trikes start trials in Hobart. Other states to follow.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-09/australia-post-electric-tricycles-trialled-in-hobart/8339646
Posted Thursday 9 Mar 2017 @ 6:26:49 am from IP # -
Bushwalker said:
"A Prius has an ICE and an electric drivetrain/batteries. It's a useful platform upon which to develop useful EV technologies but otherwise the worst of both worlds IMHO."I understand your angle but the fact is the Prius does solve many of the issues of pure electric cars even if it doesn't have all the advantages. It is a very low maintenance vehicle - certainly less than a normal ICE car as the brakes last a very long time - my first set of pads went to 160k kms! The service regime is not onerous and the complexity of the dual systems has been managed in such a way that it rarely seems to cause reliability problems. Of course I would prefer pure electric but over the last 10 years the Prius has been an excellent choice for people wanting a fuel efficient car and to support the development of efficient motoring options.
I think the Prius has stimulated a lot of learning and development across the auto industry because Toyota showed that they could make an alternate tech car commercially viable. It really did move the market to a new space.
Posted Thursday 9 Mar 2017 @ 6:40:29 am from IP # -
Hi Munter , I am currently playing with 2 old Gen 1's , firstly learning more ways to regenerate old cells and also to use these 2 cars to test out a plug in hybrid range extender. The idea is to add a full voltage set of Lithium's .. Gen 1 is 300v so add a full set of cells equalling 300v and charging that pack separately , and basically piggy back it onto the contact relay , but it means the Toyota cells need to be in good working condition. The car sees good cells in a good state and good current available so Ideally I expect the car to go on more EV than Hybrid.. If it works on the older cars then we will look at kitting up for gen 2 and 3. The current device is 48V from memory and uses a step up device to get the higher voltages so its a bit messy and hit n miss if it works as claimed , the 2 i was involved in were very temperamental and more often than not had little gains.
Posted Thursday 20 Apr 2017 @ 7:42:45 am from IP #
